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31/07/2010 10:17:02 PM
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tips on how to boost your immune system function.
Hoogenban Han Posts 3
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What you're saying is so true. And all the micronutrients neatly packaged in fruits and vegetables are important in maintaining genomic stability. My food preferences are changing drastically thanks to you.
That lady from Kaimuki is inspirational!!
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31/07/2010 2:39:17 PM
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Swooping Magpies
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31/07/2010 2:37:37 PM
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New Dura Ace Electronic
Deb Savannah Posts 3
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30/07/2010 10:24:24 PM
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diet & dietitions
 harley j Posts 57
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Good to hear from you Nick.
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30/07/2010 4:43:12 PM
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diet & dietitions
Nick Shipp Posts 6
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For F!cks sake Harley, if we are going to use single cases of evidence to justify something as the "only way" to do something then late's talk about my grandfather who smoked like a train his whole life. Lived to a very ripe old age, didn't have lung cancer, etc, etc. Now I suppose there's evidence that we should ALL smoke, cos we will ALL be like him. What a load of cr@p. If you use this theory then YOU have to believe that all those guys that did better than you at the 24hr on the weekend must be on the right track , one far better than a rfv diet, no? And I know as a matter of FACT that many (if not most, possibly all) utilise animal products in their diet. I'm sure you will find some "reasonable" justification though won't you. Try, just for once, to answer a response with something other than rhetoric and pseudoscience. Saying things like "good to hear from you" WTF. Dude, its an open forum, not like I emailed YOU. Being chummy doesn't make you less of target, it's just your attempt to belittle those who do write in. Saying things with a smiley face after them like "if we care to read them" is pathetically condescending. I have read may of those links, and many of the links from those links, and they are all the same. Pseudoscience dressed up with big words and terms so that people will feel silly if they challenge them. Like your assertion that climbers regularly do colonics on big mountain stages. Yep, probably true 10 years ago as they were all up to their eyeballs in bloodboosters, but now they won't because of rectal bleeding, damage to their mucosa and alterations to their bodies water balance ae detrimental to performance. This infomation came to me from a doctor friend who works with professional cyclists at the pro-tour level. Not rhetoric, fact. As I have said many times before my friend , RFV works for you and for others. That's great. Not everyone will feel like you do on this diet. Not everyone wants to, or needs to be on this diet. View this as personal choice. AS I once again scratch my head in bewilderment as to the links you give I ask you this. If big pharma as you love to call them are only in it for the money, what is your good friend Dr McDougall or whatever his name is in it for? Is it an altruistic, humanitarian thing he's doing to save the planet? My ar$e. Plastered all over his home page are links to buy his books. You'll argue "we all have to survive", but he could do all of his whilst on the dole, or social security too, couldn't he? What worries me is people following you blindly like this man. A man who attempted to argue against a large study of breastcancer patients (3,000) which demonstrated that increasing fruit and veg input didn't SIGNIFICANTLY change risk of recurrence etc by saying that the study participants MUST have LIED about what they told the researchers. CHr!st, that's not a scientific argument, that's a twelve year old not getting is way. I challenge everyone reading this to delve further into your claims and those of your "heroes". Some are true, but many are scaremongering and dangerously wrong. As for the good, better, best, if it's between having to get regular B vitamin shots and following a healthy balanced diet I know what I'd chose. Unlike most people on this forum Harley you fail to see the whole picture. Everyone agrees that what you did to overcome your addiction and psychological problems was great...for you. But comparing people to neanderthals picking through tiger scat or comparing roadkill to organically grown beef or free-range kangaroo is pure hilarity...I think you're trying to be funny aren't you?  So, again, I implore those reading to do so further. Read RESEARCH, not rhetoric, and I implore you, Harley, to answer statements, not try to skirt questions with condesending responses. As for me, that's it. I can't be bothered anymore. You know what they say about arguing with a fool This gives you the last word Harley, use it wisely.
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30/07/2010 2:38:41 PM
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 harley j Posts 57
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Maybe you Ross can make scientific history and be the first person to discover a human needed nutrient that can be ONLY provided by consumption of animal products and not produced in the human body or sourced from plant foods.

For sure, no doubt we did consume other humans, eat animals, picked thru a tigers left overs etc. Just like cows will eat other animals if thats all they have. In a world of good, great, better or best, Im going for best every time I can get it.
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30/07/2010 10:45:13 AM
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diet & dietitions
 Ross H Posts 6
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Harley, My point is, if your pre-Homo Sapien ancestors had not eaten meat, and developed the associated technology to do so more efficiently, then you would not now have the intellectual ability to analyse your dietary needs, or fix your bicycle, or post messages on internet forums like this. You clearly find meat-eating repugnant, but be thankful our distant forebears did not.
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30/07/2010 9:51:03 AM
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diet & dietitions
 harley j Posts 57
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Ross H wrote:
We're all going to die of something so you may as well enjoy your time here while you can. Why deny yourself the pleasure of a butter soaked pastry and a double shot espresso after a long ride. A banana smoothie and bowl of muesli just don't have the same attraction, for mine. Just remember that old motto, "all things in moderation".
PS If us humans had not been omnivores (i.e. we eat meat and veg) we would probably still be hanging out on the plains of Africa with our other primate cousins. One of the main factors humans have become so successful, in evolutionary terms, is that we have eaten a very varied diet with lots of protein (i.e. meat) to feed our huge brain. There's a reason why evolution has equipped us to eat meat and 4 milliion years or so of evolution can't be wrong.
Thats right Ross, 'everything in moderation' especially moderation! and your right ,we are all going to die eventually... and thats what I used to tell myself when I was doing meth. I would say 'have a hit, you could get hit by a bus tommorrow..' but then I would wake up like I got hit by a bus and soon I started to look for ways to be 'high' all the time with no come downs. I started playing with my health to feel better. I started reading more books and talking with health freaks. I learnt that heavy foods require caffiene after so I could function. I stopped coffee in 99 and havent had once since. Maybe its part of my OCD but I wanted to find out which foods provided energy and which took more energy. I just rode to the shops to get breakfast. On the sunshine coast here, there is some killer climbs. I had to bust out 500watts just to get to the top. I like having that sort of fitness all year round. Functional fitness we can use in our daily lives to make life for us and others better.
Ive got an aunty I visit in a nursing home. She is 85. She doesnt remember my name. I dont feel her quality of life is something I want at that age. I know a lady that is 100 and a vegan. I went to her 100birthday party in Adelaide. She is very lucid. I dont want to have a stroke, heart attack or come down with cancer if I can do my bit to prevent it. The science out there says we can. I used to think this crazy plant diet was a starvation diet. Anyone that hangs with me knows how much I eat. I eat more food than anyone I know. If it rains, I dont go training unless I need some groceries. Ive learn that if it aint fun, it aint sustainable.
If Im having as much fun as this lady is when Im that age, I will still be happy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr19gqQhJhQ
As for the debate to Sam Neil's TV add with the chimp that rides the bike cos he doesnt eat red meat, this is a good link with some opinions from a few specialists in the field. http://www.vegansa.com/veganism-diet-and-human-evolution.php But for me the fact that we find road kill repulsive, lack the ability to produce vitamin C, have animals as pets, produce our own cholesterol and have seminal vesicles is enough evidence for me. edited by harley j on 30/07/2010
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30/07/2010 9:28:52 AM
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tips on how to boost your immune system function.
 harley j Posts 57
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Hoogenban Han wrote:
You are right Harley, sorry, Kwashiokor is more a description for malnutrition than protein deficiency. I will have to re-check my references regarding the essential amino acids as well. It looks like most of us are at greater risk of excess protein intake than protein deficiency. Daily protein turnover is about 3-4g/kg body mass/day. But protein intake should be approximately half this amount because of recycling, as amino acids are continually synthesized & catabolised. We don't need very much protein at all. 
Its not that Im right, its just that is what the sciences are proving and we have the living testimonials. Human body recycles 70/80% of its protein each day. People who eat a diet starved of carbohydrates need to consume more protein as they have insufficient glycogen stores due to insufficient daily carb intake. This creates a lot of waste products just like when we enter into ketosis. Anyone that has 'bonked' or 'hit the wall' (same thing) knows that it aint a fun thing. 
The very fact that ALL plant foods contain ALL 8 human essential amino acids helps guide us even more. When we eat enough calories from our fav wholefood plant sources, we automatically get enough amino acids and fatty acids. Good thing for us is there is over a 1000 different varieties of plant foods available at our fingertips today.
I never really like eating flesh or dairy, rather it was the carbs that came with it in the form of the bread, pizza base, sauces, sugar sprinkles etc. Thats why burgers, pizzas and hotdogs are the most popular animal product foods cos they provide the most carbs with em. Who orders a steak and salad with no sauce? Nobody. Steak burger with chips and ketchup followed by icecream? Thats common. When I upped my carb intake, my health and fitness went up and I started desiring less and less animal. Then I learnt more about human physiology, the environment etc and it all clicked into place to produce the vegan nutter I am today. 
Ive measured my times up certain climbs in Adelaide since 97 and have beaten all my times most of which were originally caffiene assisted. Last year 2009 I set my most pb's on those climbs. So more me personally, that proves a lot to myself.
I will see if I can get in contact with this lady and get her to hop on a bike and post some climb times from Kaimuki. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr19gqQhJhQ
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30/07/2010 9:12:17 AM
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diet & dietitions
 Ross H Posts 6
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We're all going to die of something so you may as well enjoy your time here while you can. Why deny yourself the pleasure of a butter soaked pastry and a double shot espresso after a long ride. A banana smoothie and bowl of muesli just don't have the same attraction, for mine. Just remember that old motto, "all things in moderation".
PS If us humans had not been omnivores (i.e. we eat meat and veg) we would probably still be hanging out on the plains of Africa with our other primate cousins. One of the main factors humans have become so successful, in evolutionary terms, is that we have eaten a very varied diet with lots of protein (i.e. meat) to feed our huge brain. There's a reason why evolution has equipped us to eat meat and 4 milliion years or so of evolution can't be wrong.
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29/07/2010 9:39:57 PM
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diet & dietitions
death valley 69 Posts 1
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Nothing wrong with vegan ;but you got to do it right! Hippy **** just doesn't cut it! www.veganfitness.net
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28/07/2010 7:19:15 PM
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tips on how to boost your immune system function.
Hoogenban Han Posts 3
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You are right Harley, sorry, Kwashiokor is more a description for malnutrition than protein deficiency. I will have to re-check my references regarding the essential amino acids as well. It looks like most of us are at greater risk of excess protein intake than protein deficiency.
Daily protein turnover is about 3-4g/kg body mass/day. But protein intake should be approximately half this amount because of recycling, as amino acids are continually synthesized & catabolised. We don't need very much protein at all.
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28/07/2010 1:07:06 AM
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Whats the most important thing when buying a bike?
 Robert Rau Posts 149
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So true Harley.......agree with the comments Frame geometry is also important and the purpose for what you want to use the bike for......a well fitting 9kg bike will be more enjoyable to ride than a poorly fitted sub 7kg ride (much cheaper too)
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27/07/2010 8:47:20 PM
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Whats the most important thing when buying a bike?
 harley j Posts 57
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Weight? Brand? Warranty? Looks? Price?
None of em! Doesnt matter if your bike is a bargain or super light..what is important is if it fits YOU proper.
The most experienced guy currently working in Adelaide is Steve Nash at Corsa Cycles or if your in Sydney, Steve Hogg is who I see.
I shudder when I see crew riding great deals with flash wheels but they are losing wattage cos they are so uncomfortable via being set up wrong. People weigh stems and tubes when the real performance is bike fit.
Setting people up on the bike is an art and I leave art to the artists!
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27/07/2010 8:30:17 PM
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diet & dietitions
 harley j Posts 57
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Thanks for writing Nick.
I finished my 8th 24hr solo xc race on the weekend. It was actually warm and its the middle of winter..go figure.
Actually ALL the sites I put up promote a low fat, high carb vegan diet, if we care to read em..  I sure am a pushy bastard! I want people to feel as healthy and fit as I do. Just like I 'pushed' you to get warranty on your frame that time, I dont want people to rip out a head tube if I can say something. I dont want people to suffer if I can say something. Sure I dont have the time or energy to chase everyone around with a banana smoothie but I have a few minutes each day just to leave a message somewhere and people can do what they want with the info.
Here is 2 vids that I recommend people watch if they dont like the info from hippys like me. 
1. Healing cancer from the inside out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfnIzYE4L8Y
2. Reversing heart disease. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsfapVCJqVI
Ive sent out many dvd's to people. If anyone wants a free copy, email me veganbobster@gmail.com and I will post one out to anyone at my expense and you can make your own mind up what makes sense and what makes dollars when it comes to educating the public about taking control of their health.
Love, peace and banana grease Harley. edited by harley j on 27/07/2010 edited by harley j on 27/07/2010
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27/07/2010 8:24:25 PM
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tips on how to boost your immune system function.
 harley j Posts 57
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Here is a great doco done by Doctors on healing cancer with diet and lifestyle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfnIzYE4L8Y
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26/07/2010 7:52:19 PM
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topic:
Good Online Merchant Account
Mei Wang Posts 1
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24/07/2010 7:13:55 AM
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Bike setup in Adelaide
Philip Knight Posts 22
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there has been some recent discussion here
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23/07/2010 5:10:50 PM
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Bike setup in Adelaide
Lucky Phil Posts 1
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I am looking to finally part with some cash and set my Pinarello up (Seat height, stem length, handle bar width, but want it done properly) can anyone recommed someone in Adelaide?
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23/07/2010 12:47:02 PM
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Indoor Trainers
 cklfc Posts 23
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Good website for programs for the home trainer ... I especially like the Tour de France program. Hard but fun and mixes it up a fair bit....
http://www.onlinebiketraining.com/
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