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4/02/2012 3:34:44 AM
topic: Lance - Cheat or no cheat?

Jonathan Panoff
Jonathan Panoff
Posts 3
I have become very philosophical over the years in regards to drug use. The way I see it, it is only cheating if you take something that no one else has and is against the general direction the sport wants to go.It seems that drugs have been around for ever in cycling. For example, in the 60's the drug of choice was amphetamines, in the 80s it was steroids (remember Ben Johnson the sprinter?!). In the 1990s to 2000s it was EPO. If I really want to be cynical I'd say that Lance probably introduced his US Postal team mates to EPO after seeing it's benefits during his cancer rehab ( which he admitted using in his book). It seems both logical and plausible. Now, it seems, the sport wants to clean it's tainted image so any form of drug taking I would view as cheating as it is going against the direction the sport wants to take.
As for Australans taking drugs and in particular Cadel. Well, logic dictates that he may have taken drugs at some point in his career. I'd be surprised if he any drugs now as just watching him race he is riding like a human with guts, determination and suffering. Back in the late 80s, when I used to race, I have my suspicions about systematic doping in the AIS squads and I suspect the riders never knew anything about it. I will elaborate. It was commonly known that the AIS riders took "vitamins" via syringes. Add to this that the road squad had an East German coach (why bring in an eastern block coach if not to learn how to do systematic doping as this was their speciality), a lot of money being spent on AIS programs and the need to deliver Gold medals, and it all adds up to a well organised doping program. And, as I have stated earlier, I believe the riders thought they were getting vitamins not drugs.
Idealistically I hate drug use as it negates natural ability, probably shortens your life and isn't great for the sport and especially the young kids but logically I see why guys would take them to be on a level playing field...
24/01/2012 4:55:58 PM
topic: what do you eat to stay trim all year long?

marlinyake
marlinyake
Posts 1
Vegan diets are always healthy. The video is pretty interesting. Its true, apart from food, adequate water and sleep are the most important factors to be fit and healthy.
24/01/2012 1:57:52 AM
topic: 7 PEAKS - The Alpine Ascent Challenge

Malz
Malz
Posts 1
I don't know why they don't include the full climb up Baw Baw... the climb starts at the bottom of the hill from Tanjil Bren (tanjil river bridge) @ 500m and has a warm up at 4% for 6km then 6 km at 12% ave. End is about 1500m , so 1000m elevation in just 12 km... that really is a challenge! put it up against Buffalo (1080m in 18km or Donna Buang 1050m in 16km)
22/01/2012 8:45:13 PM
topic: 7 PEAKS - The Alpine Ascent Challenge

Murray Campbell
Posts 2
Hi Matt,
Those dates do unfortunately coincide with the Audax Alpine Classic - well that festival is on all week but I think the actual Classic is on the Sunday and was going 2 finish up by Sat.
I have attempted Mt. Baw Baw once last Wed - but only got 2.2km up the hardest bit (after riding from Noojee). The straight 800m section at 13% plays mind games! Plan to go up again next weekend sometime hopefully once I've sorted out these foot pain issues...
Probably won't be going 2 the Alps for training now - been spending money on shoes, insoles, etc... to fix some serious pain issues in my left foot.
Might look at training in Alps once I get paid again after Feb 15th...
21/01/2012 8:09:05 PM
topic: new to hill climb events

Selena Gomez
Posts 1
Can i get a video tutorial of this training.mitsubishi
20/01/2012 8:40:07 PM
topic: 7 PEAKS - The Alpine Ascent Challenge

Matt Slater
Posts 2
Hi Murray
Do those dates in Jan coincide with teh Audax Alpine Classic?
Despite my trepadation I'm keen to tick-off Mt Baw Baw one day...
Murray Campbell wrote:
Hi Matt,
I am interested in finding other people interested in riding the peaks needed for the 7 Peaks Challenge.
Was planning a 4 day trip to the Alps to do: Falls Creeks, Buffalo, Hotham and Dinners Plain from 26th-29th Jan 2012 in the anti-clockwise direction for the 3 Peaks Challenge - starting in Omeo and camping overnight at Bright. Just having trouble finding someone to drive a car as a support vehicle.
Have done Lake Mountain and Mt. Buller (planning to climb again for training) and haven't yet climbed Mt. Baw Baw (I live near Warragul).
Cheers,
Murray Campbell
20/01/2012 1:16:53 PM
topic: Lance - Cheat or no cheat?

andrew rowling
Posts 25
This evidence is more damning than anything Hamiton had to say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXPXHK7I1iQ
Also I thought if Landis was doping so was Armstrong, either both or none, not one and not the other-
they are not mutually exclusive events for those into maths and probability.
19/01/2012 10:38:47 AM
topic: Lance - Cheat or no cheat?

Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Posts 4
Brett Aitken wrote:
Just wondering if anyone has seen the youtube videos of the 60 minutes program with Tyler Hamilton accusing Lance of drug taking. What's the verdict? Do you think he's telling the truth or not?


Yes, I saw that interview.

I thought it was very convincing, and frankly, what has Hamilton got to lose now?
I love Lance, but I doubt very much that he is clean. It is really a tragedy, because the fact is, he does a lot of good. Has done wonders for the sport, for cancer and is a wonderful mentor. So, should taking performance enhancing drugs eradicate all the good?

One point which I think was very interesting, and changed my thinking a bit, was the comment that if Tyler had stolen the yellow jersey from someone else, chances are that they didn't deserve the jersey either.

Now, if you tell me Cadel Evans takes drugs - I'll shoot myself....it's just not the Aussie thing to do!
19/01/2012 4:24:35 AM
topic: Operation: Support Obscure TDU Pro

john andle
Posts 1
Hello

Its really good to watch these forum here .all the hype surrounding a few elite pro riders? Want to do something different, fun and possitive?
Everyone should look upon these forums

Thanks

dean koontz
16/01/2012 1:25:36 PM
topic: Looking for Cycling buddies.

Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Posts 4
Hi James,

Great to hear from you.

Well, I hail from Chirnside Park, so close to Dandenongs and Yarra Valley.

I can ride Saturdays, Sunday, Tuesdays and Fridays. Would like to get out twice a week at least, mix up the training with trail running and working out at the gym.

You can make more direct contact with me on MSN if you like? (And anyone else who might be reading) - address is fazer.6@hotmail.com.

Cheers,

Kerry
16/01/2012 1:09:21 PM
topic: Looking for Cycling buddies.

james singleton
Posts 1
Kerry-Lynn Dixon wrote:
Hi,

New to this website and kind of new to the Yarra Valley.

I am an enthusiastic cyclist, which I hope compensates for my lack of skill.

Anyway.....I see lots of people cycling and I always wish I was part of the bunch, without having to commit to an actual club.

So, if there are any group rides for average riders, please give me a hoi.

Cheers.

Kerry


Hi Kerry,
I do plenty of hill riding around the Dandenongs and Yarra Valley on weekends.

So far I'm a solo customer and in a similar boat to you.
If you (or others reading this) would like to do some rides, give me a yell.

James
15/01/2012 8:15:21 PM
topic: Looking for Cycling buddies.

Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Posts 4
Hi,

New to this website and kind of new to the Yarra Valley.

I am an enthusiastic cyclist, which I hope compensates for my lack of skill.

Anyway.....I see lots of people cycling and I always wish I was part of the bunch, without having to commit to an actual club.

So, if there are any group rides for average riders, please give me a hoi.

Cheers.

Kerry
15/01/2012 8:14:46 PM
topic: Looking for Cycling buddies.

Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Kerry-Lynn Dixon
Posts 4
Hi,

New to this website and kind of new to the Yarra Valley.

I am an enthusiastic cyclist, which I hope compensates for my lack of skill.

Anyway.....I see lots of people cycling and I always wish I was part of the bunch, without having to commit to an actual club.

So, if there are any group rides for average riders, please give me a hoi.

Cheers.

Kerry
4/01/2012 8:35:27 PM
topic: Energy bars and gels

Louis Toth
Louis Toth
Posts 1
These kind of gels and pills are not good for our health, so get advice from doctor first.
3/01/2012 4:44:39 PM
topic: 7 PEAKS - The Alpine Ascent Challenge

Murray Campbell
Posts 2
Hi Matt,
I am interested in finding other people interested in riding the peaks needed for the 7 Peaks Challenge.
Was planning a 4 day trip to the Alps to do: Falls Creeks, Buffalo, Hotham and Dinners Plain from 26th-29th Jan 2012 in the anti-clockwise direction for the 3 Peaks Challenge - starting in Omeo and camping overnight at Bright. Just having trouble finding someone to drive a car as a support vehicle.
Have done Lake Mountain and Mt. Buller (planning to climb again for training) and haven't yet climbed Mt. Baw Baw (I live near Warragul).
Cheers,
Murray Campbell
29/12/2011 8:05:40 PM
topic: 7 PEAKS - The Alpine Ascent Challenge

Matt Slater
Posts 2
Is anyone interested in forming groups to tackle any of teh climbs that need to be completed for eth : 7 PEAKS - The Alpine Ascent Challenge?
29/11/2011 12:59:44 PM
topic: Change to TalentID section of the website

Admin
Admin
Posts 22
Gday C2m-ers!

Just a quick note to let you know that the people at Ausport got in contact with us to let us know that the NTID program is no longer operating in its previous format. Therefore we've had to remove all associated links from our TalentID page.

To ensure consistency, we've also changed the name of this page to 'Great Rides' (which you can still see in the menu). But not to fear - all attempts for these rides still stand!!

Happy Riding!

C2m Admin
19/11/2011 2:43:17 PM
topic: Smart Phone Applications for cycling

Henry H
Henry H
Posts 1
I (currently) like SportsTrackLive (link) which I run on my Android phone. 1-off price for the 'pro' version and it connects bluetoothly with my Heart Rate Monitor (HRM).
Another (for iphone etc... users) is endomondo.
Google is your friend . . .
15/11/2011 4:30:28 PM
topic: what do you eat to stay trim all year long?

harley j
harley j
Posts 91
People ask me all the time 'bro! your still as lean as you were 10 years ago and you dont even ride as much? wtf?'

Here is what Ive found works gold. High calorie, high carb, low fat, plant based. TASTY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUnY4vXH3w8
edited by harley j on 15/11/2011
edited by harley j on 15/11/2011
15/11/2011 4:22:18 PM
topic: new to hill climb events

harley j
harley j
Posts 91
Get a power meter and ride compact cranks unless your climbs are under a minute and then its just hammer time in a gear you can accelerate with.

Watch the top doped up climbers. They still rely on cadence and easy gears and pacing and sufficient carbs and water and positive mental focus.

I will make a vid about this and post it soon enough.
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